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Thursday, June 6th 2024
by Nomad76Discuss (34 Comments)
Micron is getting ready to set sail with the new GDDR7 memory, and being NVIDIA's long-term partner, both are gaining big with the GeForce RTX 4000 Series. A few days ago, Micron announced its imminent launch of GDDR7 memory, remember that in March JEDEC published the GDDR7 memory standard. The interesting part is that an even more important piece of information was provided in one of Micron's slide-deck, the one that shows GDDR7 gaming performance. Officially Micron says that GDDR7 can be 3.1x faster than GDDR6 and 1.5x faster than GDDR6X. However, the slide in question provides some normalized FPS performance for ray tracing, and rasterization under game testing conditions. Until now, everything is clear, what comes next is our speculation and assumptions, based on previous knowledge so please, take it with a grain of salt. Will it be a hard guess, looking over those graphs, to tell that NVIDIA's RTX 5090 offers up to a 42% improvement over the RTX 4090 in rasterization, and up to 48% in ray tracing?
NVIDIA is getting closer to releasing its next-gen GPU with the RTX 5090 graphics card. Micron is in a strong partnership with NVIDIA and it's expected that its next gen graphics cards will use Micron GDDR7 memory. Now, we know that, at least for Ray Tracing, one real-world benchmark is Cyberpunk 2077, and it could be also the case here, from the graphs it looks very much like Ray Tracing was tested with Path Tracing. For Rasterization performance another hard guess is that perhaps it's either Starfield or Assassin's Creed Mirage. Presumably, tests were made using also AMD RX 7900XTX, and NVIDIA RTX 4090 to get GDDR6 reference. Time will tell if we made the right prediction.
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What a useless test. lol
Why didn't they put in an RX6600 to inflate the numbers even more. Clearly a gross allegation that deserves a lawsuit. They've definitely taken the medal for the biggest liar on intel's chest.
DenverWhat a useless test. lolWhy didn't they put in an RX6600 to inflate the numbers even more. Clearly a gross allegation that deserves a lawsuit. They've definitely taken the medal for the biggest liar on intel's chest.
Why inflate? It is clearly marked 1x, 1.2x, 1.7x for 4k raster. Meaning a ~40% increase.
Was their not a post yesterday with a statement from Micron that they were working with AMD for GDDR7?
GuckyWhy inflate? It is clearly marked 1x, 1.2x, 1.7x for 4k raster. Meaning a ~40% increase.
The logic of Micron's claim is equivalent to using an i7 4790k @ DDR3 vs i7 6700k @ DDR4 vs 7800x3d @ DDR5 comparison to say that DDR5 is much better.
No matter what argument you use, it's wrong, grotesque, dirty, etc.
GuckyMeaning a ~40% increase.
The real world benefits will be less than that, it's only a handful of titles(3?) showcased any way so likely a best case scenario.
These are the raw numbers & if you've followed any such new memory tech in the last 2 decades the actual gains are much less.
The biggest talking points seem to be PAM3 & ECC so a repeat of DDR5 in that regard.
Unless they indicated anywhere what were the actual models of GPUs utilizing these types of memory modules these graphs mean nothing. Now if you're saying they should expect a lawsuit because of this you're a special kind of snowflake.
Less than a 50% gain in RT over a 4090?
Doubt it, Nvidia have been going after a doubling of RT performance in each generation.
ChomiqUnless they indicated anywhere what were the actual models of GPUs utilizing these types of memory modules these graphs mean nothing. Now if you're saying they should expect a lawsuit because of this you're a special kind of snowflake.
American company listed on the stock exchange. 100% sure that it is subject to legal action, I've seen lawsuits filed for much less. What is your argument? Saying that lying to the market is a legal practice?
DenverAmerican company listed on the stock exchange. 100% sure that it is subject to legal action, I've seen lawsuits filed for much less. What is your argument? Saying that lying to the market is a legal practice?
Who says they're lying? You got proof of that? You know the performance of 5090?
ChomiqWho says they're lying? You got proof of that? You know the performance of 5090?
What does this have to do ? Did you understand what I said initially?
They are comparing the performance of different third-party products, probably 7900XTX, 4090, and 5090, to illustrate that the performance improvements are attributed to GDDR7, which obviously is a distortion of reality.
DenverWhat does this have to do ? Did you understand what I said initially?They are comparing the performance of different third-party products, probably 7900XTX, 4090, and 5090, to illustrate that the performance improvements are attributed to GDDR7, which obviously is a distortion of reality.
How do you know it's 7900 XTX?
Nowhere do they say it's 7900 XTX. You're feeding your own theories here.
I have to say, the halo gpu BS really works.
Already hyping this, without zero regards that it will cost over US$2K and few will be able to afford it.
Neo_MorpheusI have to say, the halo gpu BS really works.Already hyping this, without zero regards that it will cost over US$2K and few will be able to afford it.
Have you seen smartphones (iPhones), cars (Porsche 911)..etc. It absolutely works.
DenverWhat a useless test. lolWhy didn't they put in an RX6600 to inflate the numbers even more. Clearly a gross allegation that deserves a lawsuit. They've definitely taken the medal for the biggest liar on intel's chest.
I don't see the mention of XTX in their presentation. It could actually be 4080super. No one knows
Since when is GDDR6x over 2x faster than GDDR6. cough BS cough. It's at most 20% faster 24Gb/s vs 20GB/s
Als,o the "NVIDIA is getting ready to release the 5090" is also total a stretch as it's late Q4 at earliest and possibly Q1 2025. A long way off.
DenverWhat does this have to do ? Did you understand what I said initially?They are comparing the performance of different third-party products, probably 7900XTX, 4090, and 5090, to illustrate that the performance improvements are attributed to GDDR7, which obviously is a distortion of reality.
i do think gddr7 will be a nice upgrade we might not know how much, techpowerup said "tests were made using also AMD RX 7900XTX, and NVIDIA RTX 4090 to get GDDR6 reference. Time will tell if we made the right prediction." thats the line i copied from techpowerup, with that said we might not know exactly how big diffrence it is nor do we have enough info about it since there is a veriable now with diffrent gpu arcatecture aka rdna 3, ada, and the new gen, but i dont think anyone will or can sue them for it, even if investors can they probebly wont since when it goes public the stock of micron will take a hit and the investors will lose money it will take alot for them to sue, thats my take on it
ChomiqHow do you know it's 7900 XTX?
Nowhere do they say it's 7900 XTX. You're feeding your own theories here.
Doesn’t the TPU article above say in the second to last sentence that the 7900XTX was used in the GDDR6 reference tests?
Let's guess RTX 5090 pricing, I'll start. $3000
DavenDoesn’t the TPU article above say in the second to last sentence that the 7900XTX was used in the GDDR6 reference tests?
Key word being:
Presumably
Firstly, I hope you Nvidia investors also bought Micron. I was telling people to buy at $50 a share, but you still have a chance to get in.
I plan on buying a Suprim Liquid X 5090 to replace my SLX4090. Thus far, it's been a great card, but when we get the z890 motherboards and 15900k I'm taking my computer to the next level.
DavenDoesn’t the TPU article above say in the second to last sentence that the 7900XTX was used in the GDDR6 reference tests?
Until now, everything is clear, what comes next is our speculation and assumptions, based on previous knowledge so please, take it with a grain of salt.
QUANTUMPHYSICSFirstly, I hope you Nvidia investors also bought Micron. I was telling people to buy at $50 a share, but you still have a chance to get in.I plan on buying a Suprim Liquid X 5090 to replace my SLX4090. Thus far, it's been a great card, but when we get the z890 motherboards and 15900k I'm taking my computer to the next level.
No one cares
Databasedgod
DenverWhat a useless test. lolWhy didn't they put in an RX6600 to inflate the numbers even more. Clearly a gross allegation that deserves a lawsuit. They've definitely taken the medal for the biggest liar on intel's chest.
Woah woah woah... lawsuit you say?! Take it easy there, bud... none of us want to see you get hurt and there's really no reason for it anyway. Did you know that Micron did not list a single GPU model on any of their marketing materials?!
WOW!! What a huge relief! I reckon you should sleep easy knowing that Intel still wears the "biggest liar" medal on their chest. There's still hope though! Maybe one day they'll slip up and someone incredibly unkeen and brave like yourself will do them a BIG lawsuit because they are liars.
P. S. don't take candy from strangers
DenverAmerican company listed on the stock exchange. 100% sure that it is subject to legal action, I've seen lawsuits filed for much less. What is your argument? Saying that lying to the market is a legal practice?
BRUHHHHHH.... based on your interpretation of the article, we're all beginning to think you don't really understand how litigation works either.
DenverWhat does this have to do ? Did you understand what I said initially?They are comparing the performance of different third-party products, probably 7900XTX, 4090, and 5090, to illustrate that the performance improvements are attributed to GDDR7, which obviously is a distortion of reality.
Can you please show me where Micron specified the GPU models they tested?
PrettyKitten800Woah woah woah... lawsuit you say?! Take it easy there, bud... none of us want to see you get hurt and there's really no reason for it anyway. Did you know that Micron did not list a single GPU model on any of their marketing materials?!
WOW!! What a huge relief! I reckon you should sleep easy knowing that Intel still wears the "biggest liar" medal on their chest. There's still hope though! Maybe one day they'll slip up and someone incredibly unkeen and brave like yourself will do them a BIG lawsuit because they are liars.P. S. don't take candy from strangers
BRUHHHHHH.... based on your interpretation of the article, we're all beginning to think you don't really understand how litigation works either.
Can you please show me where Micron specified the GPU models they tested?
I'm starting to feel sorry for you people who can't grasp the obvious, it doesn't matter that they don't specify which GPUs they're using (Although, even a child would notice that they're respectively XTX, 4090 and 5090, given the known difference between the first two). What matters is that they are different GPUs, and the fact that they point to GPU performance as shady marketing for their GDDR technology, because they certainly aren't using the same GPU to isolate the difference the technology is supposed to bring.
Micron is already being destroyed by multiple lawsuits, if you don't know. I wouldn't be surprised if someone shoved another one up their backsides.
PS: 1.2x raster
2.1x RT - CyberPunk
DenverI'm starting to feel sorry for you people who can't grasp the obvious, it doesn't matter that they don't specify which GPUs they're using (Although, even a child would notice that they're respectively XTX, 4090 and 5090, given the known difference between the first two). What matters is that they are different GPUs, and the fact that they point to GPU performance as shady marketing for their GDDR technology, because they certainly aren't using the same GPU to isolate the difference the technology is supposed to bring.Micron is already being destroyed by multiple lawsuits, if you don't know. I wouldn't be surprised if someone shoved another one up their backsides.
Says the guy that doesn't understand these are ballpark figures.
This is GDDR, you will never see several generations paired with the same GPU so that you can judge the actual difference. Didn't happen till now, won't happen in the future.
